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Post by Valhalla Erikson on Jan 29, 2023 23:31:25 GMT -6
ChatGPT: An Open AI that answer questions and generate text based on the input it receives. There has been an ongoing debate among the lit community as the program has been used to help author's develop their story. There are even videos of people mentioning how they've gotten their book published because of the program.
I'm on the fence regarding this subject. On one hand it might be useful if a writer is stuck on a story and uses GPT as a means to help them on their writing journey. But I'm also concerned if it hinders the author's creativity by over relying on the AI to develop the story thus limiting the author's creativity or writing voice.
Where do you stand on this?
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Post by RAVENEYE on Jan 29, 2023 23:56:32 GMT -6
Hmm, torn. It would be nice to have suggestions if I get stuck on plot stuff, but I hope I would never rely on AI to write my story for me. That's the pleasure of creativity. That said, it would be fun to toy around with for short works and see what comes of it. On Mastodon I ran into artists who are using AI to create their artworks or book covers. MidJourney is what the AI is called. The results are stunning. For example:  Would LOVE to play around with this too for book covers. Edit: Well, I learned MidJourney is done via Discord and gives access to 25 freebies before subscriptions become necessary. So let the tinkering begin! Do you know if ChatGPT is like this, Valhalla? Edit again: When I gave MidJourney bot the prompt "Egypt Camels" it returned these four images. Aren't the camels cute?! <3  Edit Yet Again: OMG. I typed in "young sorcerer fire" and got some creepy kids. Young! Not children! Sheesh, this AI is literal to the extreme. Gotta get more specific, apparently.  |
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Post by Valhalla Erikson on Jan 30, 2023 1:09:03 GMT -6
If I could only figure out MidJourney🤪
Honestly ChatGPT is completely free to use. I only use it for Fanfiction purposes, though. I once had it write me an alternate ending to Supernatural. The results left me emotional but in a good way the I’m not crying you’re crying way.
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Post by RAVENEYE on Jan 30, 2023 10:48:46 GMT -6
If I could only figure out MidJourney🤪 Honestly ChatGPT is completely free to use. I only use it for Fanfiction purposes, though. I once had it write me an alternate ending to Supernatural. The results left me emotional but in a good way the I’m not crying you’re crying way. No kidding? Hmm... that's really tempting then. As long as it's not a security issue. Things like this make me leery. But I really really really want to try it. MidJourney was so simple (I was surprised). If you have your own Discord (or create one) go into the server's Settings, click App Directory, search for MidJourney and apply. Like, seriously, that's all it took. Then in your server, type /imagine, then whatever prompt words you want it paint. Done. I'm sure I'll run through my 25 freebies in no time flat. |
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Post by Valhalla Erikson on Jan 30, 2023 16:40:20 GMT -6
I've managed to figure out MidJourney! Thanks for the advice BTW  So I've tinkered with it and requested a prompt of a female Peter Pan and Captain Hook for an fantasy story I'm developing. This is what I got  |
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Post by Alatariel on Jan 30, 2023 21:44:45 GMT -6
I think I'm the only one hopeful about this new AI. I want it to be the beginning of the Thunderhead from the Arc of the Scythe series. A perfect and benevolent AI that basically runs everything. Those books are so good. The portions directly from the Thunderhead are incredibly poignant. The observations on humanity and how much it takes its job to care for humanity very seriously. It made me ache for that kind of future utopia.
Some quotes:
Most people see this as the beginning of SkyNet, but not me. Hopefully. Most likely it'll be used for profit of some kind.
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Post by RAVENEYE on Jan 30, 2023 22:23:14 GMT -6
I've managed to figure out MidJourney! Thanks for the advice BTW So I've tinkered with it and requested a prompt of a female Peter Pan and Captain Hook for an fantasy story I'm developing. This is what I got Wow, that's a stellar result! (shrunk it down a bit so it doesn't tax things so much and is easier on our mobile users) |
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Post by RAVENEYE on Jan 30, 2023 22:24:53 GMT -6
I think I'm the only one hopeful about this new AI. I want it to be the beginning of the Thunderhead from the Arc of the Scythe series. A perfect and benevolent AI that basically runs everything. Those books are so good. The portions directly from the Thunderhead are incredibly poignant. The observations on humanity and how much it takes its job to care for humanity very seriously. It made me ache for that kind of future utopia. Some quotes: Most people see this as the beginning of SkyNet, but not me. Hopefully. Most likely it'll be used for profit of some kind. Hmm, need to add this to my reading list, perhaps? Those quotes say yes. |
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Post by Mazulla on Jan 30, 2023 23:07:33 GMT -6
I think it's a useful tool. You can create as many images as you like with AI, but still, only you have the ability and the will to sit down and write the story you want to create. I could see how some people could maybe become obsessive over it, though, in search of that "perfect" image. I've personally been using MidJourney off and on since August. Mostly just for fun and to test the AI's interpretations/limitations, but I've definitely tried making some images for inspiration, too. A good portion are duds, but occasionally you get those stellar images.
The thing that blows my mind is the people that say they're professional "AI Artists." Like, what? Can you really be an artist because you've figured out how to string words together for an AI to respond a certain way?  Some of the image prompts I've generated so far:
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Post by RAVENEYE on Jan 31, 2023 12:02:27 GMT -6
I think it's a useful tool. You can create as many images as you like with AI, but still, only you have the ability and the will to sit down and write the story you want to create. I could see how some people could maybe become obsessive over it, though, in search of that "perfect" image. I've personally been using MidJourney off and on since August. Mostly just for fun and to test the AI's interpretations/limitations, but I've definitely tried making some images for inspiration, too. A good portion are duds, but occasionally you get those stellar images.
The thing that blows my mind is the people that say they're professional "AI Artists." Like, what? Can you really be an artist because you've figured out how to string words together for an AI to respond a certain way? Some of the image prompts I've generated so far:
Holy moly, these are so gorgeous! Would you mind sharing your prompts/commands/settings for these images? I'm ending up with quite a few duds and need to see what generates successful results. Professional AI artist??? Okay, then, I want THAT job. Sheesh. |
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Post by Valhalla Erikson on Jan 31, 2023 16:29:02 GMT -6
A few AI Concepts I've created for my epic dark fantasy novel The Ballad of The Wolf Princess. The first one is one of my key antagonist named The Lich Knight. The main character Bjorn, her childhood friend and Knight In Training The kingdom where the main character resides in |
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Post by RAVENEYE on Jan 31, 2023 17:41:24 GMT -6
A few AI Concepts I've created for my epic dark fantasy novel The Ballad of The Wolf Princess. The first one is one of my key antagonist named The Lich Knight. The main character Bjorn, her childhood friend and Knight In Training The kingdom where the main character resides in Ooo, love these! These were done with MidJourney? Or something else? What prompts did you use to get the characters to look like they were supposed to? I'm having lots of trouble getting MidJourney to paint my characters. |
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Post by Valhalla Erikson on Jan 31, 2023 19:17:20 GMT -6
MidJourney is the tool I used for the images  As for the prompts. Ragna Skarsgard 12 year old girl, 80s fantasy homage, courtyard, kingdom, kneeling with sword, praying, berserk manga style, tomboy, leather pants, brown, short brunette hair Bjorn Grimgardson 12 year old boy, knight in training, red hair, athletically fit, 80s fantasy homage, royal courtyard, lighting, dark fantasy illustration, pretty, berserk manga style Castle Wingate dark fantasy, 80s throwback, berserk manga style, kingdom, snowy region, majestic castle The Lich Knight dark fantasy jack kirby inspired and a link from my original ai art cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/976997516618924092/1069980077904904212/ValhallaErikson_dark_fantasy_80s_throwback_berserk_manga_style__cd6ed885-b51b-43c0-868c-1ecaceae374e.pngThe Prompt for that is dark fantasy, 80s throwback, berserk manga style, kingdom, snowy region, majestic castle If I know how to actually draw the noticable theme is that my story is a throwback to 1980s fantasy |
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Post by Mazulla on Jan 31, 2023 21:07:31 GMT -6
Holy moly, these are so gorgeous! Would you mind sharing your prompts/commands/settings for these images? I'm ending up with quite a few duds and need to see what generates successful results. Professional AI artist??? Okay, then, I want THAT job. Sheesh. Sure! In order of the ones I posted above (as examples):
1.) middle earth --v4 (LOL, I wanted to see what it would do and I wasn't disappointed with the results)
2.) irish myth, kelpie, dark, death, --v4
3.) Amate, to terrify --v4 (an interesting word I came across and I wanted to see how the AI would interpret it)
4.) smooth scales, serpentine snake-like creature with wings, dark, menacing --v4 (I've found that just typing "dragon" doesn't always render well, but finding ways to describe a dragon turns out better)
5.) unraveling face, octane render, 4k
6.) amate --v4 (again, testing how the AI would interpret it)
There are loads of tricks I haven't learned, but:
Ending prompts with --v4 seems to give you more detailed/crisp images. As you can see, most of the ones I posted were --v4 variations. There are some other commands I haven't played with too much like --v3, v2, and v1 as well. --test is another one I've experimented with, which gives 2 images but takes more time to generate them.
You can also specify: art styles (Van Gogh, Da Vinci, anime, chibi), engines (Octane Render, Unreal Engine), resolutions (4k, 8k), aspect ratios (like --ar 16:8).
Words that I've found have yielded really interesting results with different prompts: "cinematic," "neon," "glow," "split," "shimmering," "fae," "shadow," "sketch," "blueprint."
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Post by Mazulla on Jan 31, 2023 21:10:23 GMT -6
A few AI Concepts I've created for my epic dark fantasy novel The Ballad of The Wolf Princess. The first one is one of my key antagonist named The Lich Knight. The main character Bjorn, her childhood friend and Knight In Training The kingdom where the main character resides in These are so cool! We should have a thread just for AI creations, haha. |
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As for the prompts.
You add them to your profile as you do them around the forum.
