Brilyana
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Post by Brilyana on Oct 28, 2020 21:06:44 GMT -6
Imagine if we're actually unbelievably long lived. That's why we can't recognize other lifeforms in the galaxy because they're so fleeting.
The other lifeforms believe, and their science supports, that the universe is static because in their viewpoint, it is. They can't imagine how much the universe moves.
We're so old and long-lived, WE CAN SEE THE UNIVERSE AS IT'S BEING SHAPED!
Imagine that...
So how would we even communicate with a species that develops, evolves, and dies out before we're even considered past babyhood?
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Post by HDSimplicityy on Oct 28, 2020 22:53:35 GMT -6
Through methods and technology where the lesser species can understand it. Even learn. Sci fi aliens have that. Halo has it, for example.
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Post by doublejay9 on Oct 29, 2020 14:53:56 GMT -6
I wonder if that's how a hypothetical sentient plant species, especially the trees that live for centuries, would regard humanity.
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Post by Brilyana on Oct 31, 2020 13:36:41 GMT -6
Through methods and technology where the lesser species can understand it. Even learn. Sci fi aliens have that. Halo has it, for example. Where they can understand it? I'm talking about the entire rise and fall of a species in the space of a few years. Literally, in the span of time it would take you to think "I want to communicate with them," probably 10 generations have gone by.
What method and technology would create a meaningful interaction with a race whose members only life a few seconds?
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Post by HDSimplicityy on Oct 31, 2020 19:07:56 GMT -6
Through methods and technology where the lesser species can understand it. Even learn. Sci fi aliens have that. Halo has it, for example. Where they can understand it? I'm talking about the entire rise and fall of a species in the space of a few years. Literally, in the span of time it would take you to think "I want to communicate with them," probably 10 generations have gone by.
What method and technology would create a meaningful interaction with a race whose members only life a few seconds?
Depends on time. Theirs could be different. Ours is faster so we see them live for a few seconds, yet they can have a unique construction of time where it actually lasts longer?
I am overthinking it. It has to be a way to slow time.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2020 10:45:07 GMT -6
The way they would slow time would be to think and exist in super high speeds. Speeds that we can't comprehend. In the time it takes us to think "I want to talk to them", they've had entire lifetimes of thought and experience. So they're actually much faster than us. Or at least they think much faster than us.
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Post by RAVENEYE on Nov 2, 2020 10:38:57 GMT -6
What came to mind when I read this was hummingbirds. There was a documentary somewhere that compared how hummingbirds perceive the world. They move so fast that we giants seem to be crawling along in slo-mo. That's not remotely what you mean, Bril, but it did cause me to remember the cute little speeders.
Relativity or "reality is relative" explored this way sounds really fun.
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Post by Brilyana on Nov 3, 2020 22:47:40 GMT -6
In my mind, that's basically what it is. It's that they perceive time at a much faster rate because that's how much time they have. I really have to question whether an immortal from mythology really would be recognizing time at the same rate as a human. Psychologists and fiction writers alike have theorized that if a human lived for exponential times longer than the "normal" human life-span, the odds that they'd retain sanity goes down. Drastically. Some theories state that it's because the human brain can only retain so much information before it starts breaking down. Others have said it's because the psychology of watching those you care about die around you gives a mental state similar to PTSD. Really, writing and reading are a great way to explore different thoughts, philosophies, and theories about reality. How to twist it, exploring what happens if it IS twisted... Or even thinking about why we view things the way we do. I love thinking, and love it even more when people think with me. You never know where those thoughts are going to end up.
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Post by RAVENEYE on Nov 4, 2020 12:49:41 GMT -6
Really, writing and reading are a great way to explore different thoughts, philosophies, and theories about reality. How to twist it, exploring what happens if it IS twisted... Or even thinking about why we view things the way we do. Exactly. Perspective shapes so much. Like the belief that the sun goes round the earth, resulting in the permanent terms of sunrise and sunset, though they're vastly incorrect. But they result from the literal view we have of that event taking place. And the logic seemed correct at the time. So a brief-lived creature would seem justified in calling long-lived creatures immortal or gods or whatever. There was a line in the movie version of White Fang (I don't know if it's in the book), where the original Inuit owner of the wolf/dog said of the relationship between dog and human, "We are their gods." And that struck me as a remarkable point of view.
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Post by Brilyana on Nov 4, 2020 23:02:45 GMT -6
I think that is in the book.
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