Can you Separate Art from the Artist?
Nov 4, 2024 19:46:31 GMT -6
Post by saintofm on Nov 4, 2024 19:46:31 GMT -6
Link to a decent video on it,
To not repeat a lot of points made in the thread on Problematic creators and supporting them in the Areana Of Controversy thread, I will just say when it comes to problematic elements in the creative spaces, look at what people thought about the topic there.
This thread is more a focus on the original academic approach to it. In any case, I think the original intent was to judge a work on its own merits and not necessarily that of its creator. T not assume much of the creator's background and influence in their work. Which makes sense. Steven King once did a book under a pen name to see if he was any good or if people were just buying his books because of the name. His son does likewise to avoid riding his father's coattails.
At the same time we seem to try to infer so much about a person based on their work, hence why there are so many people that have weird conspiracy theories about the Shakespear. Its by that logic many are surprised alot of horror writers in Manga for instance are a bunch of goofballs, with one being described as and I quote "an adorable cat dad." On the other hand, these same people, myself included, end up getting shocked by how much of a jerk Miyazaki turns out to be.
Depending on how zealous you want to use this school of thought to think about it, when it comes to separating the artists from the art...it depends.
When it comes to separated the quality of the person vs the quality of their work, plenty of decent people make bad art and plenty of human septic tanks make good art. However the less you know about them, the easier it is. You can enjoy Marry Shelly's Frankenstien: The Modern Prometheus without knowing a single thing about the mother of science fiction. BUT the more you do know about here, you see just how much the adage "Write What You Know" was something she embodied.
TWhat are you guys thoughts on this, and is there someone that can word this much more eloquently than I can
To not repeat a lot of points made in the thread on Problematic creators and supporting them in the Areana Of Controversy thread, I will just say when it comes to problematic elements in the creative spaces, look at what people thought about the topic there.
This thread is more a focus on the original academic approach to it. In any case, I think the original intent was to judge a work on its own merits and not necessarily that of its creator. T not assume much of the creator's background and influence in their work. Which makes sense. Steven King once did a book under a pen name to see if he was any good or if people were just buying his books because of the name. His son does likewise to avoid riding his father's coattails.
At the same time we seem to try to infer so much about a person based on their work, hence why there are so many people that have weird conspiracy theories about the Shakespear. Its by that logic many are surprised alot of horror writers in Manga for instance are a bunch of goofballs, with one being described as and I quote "an adorable cat dad." On the other hand, these same people, myself included, end up getting shocked by how much of a jerk Miyazaki turns out to be.
Depending on how zealous you want to use this school of thought to think about it, when it comes to separating the artists from the art...it depends.
When it comes to separated the quality of the person vs the quality of their work, plenty of decent people make bad art and plenty of human septic tanks make good art. However the less you know about them, the easier it is. You can enjoy Marry Shelly's Frankenstien: The Modern Prometheus without knowing a single thing about the mother of science fiction. BUT the more you do know about here, you see just how much the adage "Write What You Know" was something she embodied.
TWhat are you guys thoughts on this, and is there someone that can word this much more eloquently than I can