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Post by Octagon on Jun 21, 2024 16:54:58 GMT -6
I had been having a very difficult time with writing in the past, one reason being that when I would read my prose to myself in my mind, I would read unstressed syllables with the wrong speed, often with a variety of speeds. When I would think of an anapest, I would think of something quick da-da dum. But the right way to pronounce an anapest is not with so much rapidity on the first two syllables, as my new understanding tells me.
My inability to read unstressed syllables with the right speed, I think, weakened my ability to make my prose flow smoothly. Lately, I had come to a new understanding of auxiliary verbs and pronouns, that they are stressed, because I began to pronounce them with the right speed, having been pronouncing them too fast. But that they are stressed is not the case; it is simply that all words except content words are to be read without stress and with the proper speed. Failure to do this will hinder editing properly, due to a lack of ability to pronounce words and syllables properly, whether silently, or aloud.
Has anyone else struggled with this?
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Post by ScintillaMyntan on Jun 21, 2024 17:02:40 GMT -6
Just read naturally, the way you speak. Unstressed syllables are a bit faster since English is a stress-timed language. But that's not something you need to worry about consciously, especially if you're fluent in English.
You're getting way too caught up in details like this. If you write some prose about something you care about, you and people here can improve it later.
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Post by Alatariel on Jun 21, 2024 19:21:09 GMT -6
I can't say this is something I consciously think about or struggle with, I'm sorry. It sounds frustrating. As Scintilla recommended, write how you speak and then have someone help you edit it. I always say to default to simplicity. Add complication or further details later.
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Post by saintofm on Jun 21, 2024 23:25:19 GMT -6
Its helped me somewhat to use Speechify for some of this. The free version has a pretty decently paced way of reading it (although you only get the celebrity voices and human sounding ones in the premium version).
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Post by Octagon on Jun 25, 2024 11:44:54 GMT -6
Just read naturally, the way you speak. Unstressed syllables are a bit faster since English is a stress-timed language. But that's not something you need to worry about consciously, especially if you're fluent in English. You're getting way too caught up in details like this. If you write some prose about something you care about, you and people here can improve it later. Off-Topic: I will just practice writing concisely with strong verbs for now. When I silently read what I've written, I tend to distort its rhythm, forcing it to flow, or preventing myself from seeing how parts of it flow. That's why I thought it good to pronounce the syllables consciously. But I know that reading aloud is said to help people hear the sound of their language well. I want to speak different phrases aloud while I edit, to see if they sound lyrical. Is this method good? I fear that it will weaken my skill with pronounciation, so that I'll no longer hear how my writing sounds.
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Post by Octagon on Jun 25, 2024 15:08:02 GMT -6
Also, I want to say that, although I've just started practicing brevity, I don't think I lack the ability to write poetically in relatively economical language, using extra words on occasion. But I simply wanted to master brevity so that I could achieve a more economical poetic prose style.
Also, I have barely practiced imitation in the past, but when I did, to the small degree that I practiced it, to that degree it was helpful. I want to find a modern work that uses language very poetically and very skillfully, and practice imitation on it.
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